A Volume Observation...

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A Volume Observation...

Postby GonzoBass » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:15 am

I have an XP2 strung B-E-A-D which I use for a couple tunes with Jeff Gaeth
and when I switch basses, this one is way hotter, volume-wise.

Both Steinbergers are passive and have
(what appears to be and should be)
identical EMGs.

Do pickups get old/wear out?
I this why guys get them rewound?
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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby Mr. Mom » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:35 am

Interesting. I'd think that with the graphic neck that the "wood variable" would have less effect than on a bass with a wood neck and that tone/volume would be more consistent from Steinie to Steinie.

Two things I can think of off the top of my head. 1) Maybe Steinberger used EMG's with different specs at different times in their basses. 2) Brands of strings or even different kids of strings can have some volume differences.
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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby ghiadub » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:56 pm

Have you tried lowering the pickups on the hot one?
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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby Jerry » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:57 pm

Maybe the windings at the point of manufacture were different. It seems to me (often wrong [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif] ), that the bass strung with the B string would be lower just by the more juice it pulls out of the amp for the lower frequencies.
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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby bigfatbass » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:33 pm

I'm leaning more towards it being pick-up height. The lower tension is going to swing in a wider vibratory arc, which may be enough to change the gain by proximity with the hot EMGs.


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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby steveonbass » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:48 pm

Could be any of these things. Are the eq points on your amp optimized for one - freq-wise? I imagine you already checked most of these things before posting.
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Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby GonzoBass » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:16 am

Pickup heights are about the same.
No change in amp settings.
As for parts, the serial numbers are only 165 apart.

...but when doing a quick change on stage
(unplug, cord in mouth, unhook strap, reverse)
this one's way louder.

Only difference I can see is the amount of use.
When I got the second one
(actually the older of the two),
it was still in good shape.
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Might try just switching them out between basses to see.
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GK 2x10 Neo
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GK 1x15 RBS

Effects:
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BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer

Re: A Volume Observation...

Postby Golem » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:12 pm

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I'm suspecting the PUs. I have a pair of XL2s and
the neck PU in one went weak and later croaked.

These PUs have built-in mini-pre-amps, which is
yet another manufacturing variable. Normally,
electronic parts have a 20% tolerance, and in a
chain of components that can also add up. Altho
the laws of probability say that if there's enuf
components involved it should all even out more
or less, if those laws held sway in the real world,
then everthing within the world would be so
consistent that we would never have had reason
to work out the laws of probability in the first
place. Hope that clears everything up. YMMV ...
and according to "The Law" it prolly will.

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