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Postby Sloom » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:30 pm

EDIT: 8/16/10... Done deal, I kept the Hamer. Sorry about losing the link to the Ibby, but it's a done issue anyway...


So I historically and typically do strongly dislike the look of the Ibanez Soundgear line. Nonetheless, I'm considering a swap for one, an '87 Japan-made, Ashe-body/Ebony 'board/DiMarzio w/ "Q"-type filter sweep. In trade I'm offering an '83 Hamer Cruisebass, likely to be the one used by the Romantics in their '83 video/release, "Talking in Your Sleep".

I got the Hamer from the same guy who now wants it back and has the Soundgear to offer in trade. But I like the guy's description of the SGR; in fact I'm less interested in the look of what I play nowadays. I'm very interested in playability and sound, as it's recently occurred to me: I never really look at my bass while I'm playing it! I see it from my perspective. If I like looking at it, holding it, listening to and playing it, then it's won a lot of points as a winner in my short book.

I'm not vain enough (really!) to worry much about how "vint" an axe looks, nor do I take seriously the idea that I'm cutting any kind of legendary figure when I'm standing on a stack of 2x lumber and plywood that's been painted black, with hot, colorful lights on behind me... playing my slug-chops in front of too many people who don't deserve to put up with it... alright I'm going too far there! [smilie=grinning-smiley-044.gif]

So I'm writing this 'cause I'm interested in opinions! Anybody have one? Is this guy going to take and sell the potentially valuable and pop-pedigree'd Hamer to a hollywood producer/collector for $5,000? Could I be doing that instead- and putting a big hit of stash into my kids' college funds? As if I care whether or not they go to college... that 'Spring Break' 'thing'- nightmare- comes to mind...
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Freddels » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:00 pm

I'd keep the Hamer but that's me.
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:04 am

Well I'll admit here the reason I'm considering the trade is that the guy wants it back. I think he cares for it more than I do, really- though don't get me wrong, I like it. And it's a cool vintage, as it were. Also it's a real-deal "era" bass- from my own "back in the day" time.

Another thing about the Hamer: The bridge needs replacing, okay not a big deal. But I also think it's a little misaligned with the neck... the strings seem to 'travel' from center as they go from the nut to the bridge saddles. You can see it as they run along the edge of the fingerboard, and as they run over the pickups. Also the relative string-span gets a little wider at the bottom of the neck than at the nut: I.e., the strings get a little closer to the edge of the 'board as they travel bridge-wards. Yep, I'm a nit-picker about this stuff! Don't know if I want to 'go there' and fix it. But dang, the thing feels really good.

Also the neck on the Ibanez is described as being even thinner from back-of-neck to fingerboard. I think there's a point at which a neck can get too thin- that in fact might be as responsible as anything for some of the hand and wrist problems we hear so much about, or experience ourselves.

So there, more blabber about it.

Thanks for the offering Fred. And here's a photo:

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Just for reference, here's the time-worn and battle-scarred tale-telling Hamer:

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Re: "Other"...

Postby Funkster » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:52 am

I'm with Fred on this Rog,, Keep the Hamer!
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:58 am

Okay we're two-for-two. Throwing this into the pot with my own better sense about it.
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Re: "Other"...

Postby DaveyG67 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:37 pm

Personally I would keep the Hamer as well... regarding the bridge issue: I thought the "roller saddles" were adjustable from side to side...?
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:46 pm

DaveyG67 wrote:Personally I would keep the Hamer as well... regarding the bridge issue: I thought the "roller saddles" were adjustable from side to side...?


They are, but the E-string saddle is maxed toward the adjustment for the issue. I'm thinking a new Schaller or Badass bridge, and re-set it to be better situated "on-center" to the nut. I can do it alright, it's just a small time-taker that I would rather find a way to avoid. Ignoring it might just be the ticket. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]

Besides, this bridge has "Hamer" embossed on it. Even with the chrome finish pitting off, it's still got all the original hardware. Kinda cool... don't mind a little funk in my bass. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif] Even if I didn't put it there! I just have to maintain the funk... enhance it, maybe...

By the way, thanks for all the replies. You guys are on the right page- it's staying. Thanks for the help with listening to my better sense.
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:27 pm

I have kept the Hamer Cruisebass long enough now to have decided that I really like this bass. It's no longer tuned BEAD, the Mexi Fender now carries that burden. The Hamer is the new #1 player, and through the new-to-me Series-6 lilttle combo (a '715', I think) it's a killer axe. I suddenly got very friendly with 'er after putting it back into standard tuning. Now I need the right strings, but it'll do the way it is!

Oh- and it's not the one used by the Romantics for the "Talking in Your Sleep" vid. Frankly I'm kind of glad... [smilie=tosser.gif]

Once again, thanks for the help all. [smilie=food-smiley-004.gif]
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:30 am

I'm playing this one a lot lately, it's gotten under my hands. Great bass: Sounds great, plays well, and with my strap-button arrangement the balance is perfect. I call it "The Ugly Stick", but that's just the nature of it! The good side of that is I'm not afraid to whack it into a cymbal. [smilie=cool-smiley-027.gif]

The BCS pre's concentric eq knobs are a little stiff, needs matching V and T knobs, that kind of thing... but it's got a quarter-sawn Maple neck- and a quarter-sawn Rosewood fingerboard, and you aren't likely to see a lot more of those mass-produced, I think.

Glad I kept it. [smilie=icon_biggrin.gif]

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Re: "Other"...

Postby Mr. Mom » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:38 am

The more I look at that bass the more like it.
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:41 am

What? Oh- you mean this one?

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...that one? [smilie=grinning-smiley-044.gif]
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Re: "Other"...

Postby Sloom » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:03 pm

Don't know what my point was, but I like it more too. Even with the excessive over-spray of black over the nice original trans-red, and the chips, cracks, and bored-out strap-button holes... 'tis a player and a singer of songs, for sure. I wanted one back in the day, and it hap'd upon me unannounced. I do believe she's a keeper. If those aren't famous last words... but she's been so beat up by previous owners I think she needs a good home now. And it's fun to play.
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