Genz Benz Streamliner 900

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Johnny_B_Badd » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:06 am

I know exactly what you're talking about. And I will be the first to attest to these STM's being real particular on cabinets and strings. As far as strings go. I was using DR high beams at the time of my first contact with my STM. And I had this horrible high/mid that either dialed in too bright, or too muddy. And this was through a Mesa Boogie RR1000 cabinet. I dialed out the horn, dialed the highs out a tad and it came across, not too bright, and not muddy at all. But I still had mids in there, which I go for mids with a ton of bottom end. I put the SR4 on with the Sheehan Rotosounds, and the whole dial in process was as easy as falling down. Took the gain out (active bass doesn't need that gain), dialed out a bit more of the mids and highs, and I had the same exact sound as Steve Harris. Which is exactly what I go for in sound. I swapped out the DR's for the Sheehan's and these basses all come across with a ton of bottom, a nice amount of mids, and a taste of highs.

Got the Uber4X10, and the dial in process was almost instant. Everything was damned near 12 o'clock. the STM900 with the Uber4X10 sounds damned near my 73 SVT with an 8X10 cab. Just a lot louder. :)

I hope you get this worked out. You seriously bought a killer piece of gear getting that STM. I know these STM900's are great for bassists who are 440, who are flat tuned, and even for those guys who tune down as far as C. I've had my rig out 3 times, and so far, 3 different bassists have run through my rig. And each time was the same effect. Stiff jeans and a smile that wouldn't quit the whole time they were playing it. So I really hope you get that same smile... Stiff jeans are all on you. lol



dukeplaysbass wrote:OK, so on the basis of what's been written here, I got one. It arrived today. I put in a solid 2 hrs first go round, took a break and got a bite to eat, then went at it again for another 90 minutes.

There's something that just doesn't sound right, to my ears. It sounds a little brittle, or sterile, like a high-high-mid that just keeps barking away and won't shut the fuck up already.....

Here's my gear background:

I generally use a mid 70s SVT thru an Eden 2x15 for rehearsal. Live, I use an Ashdown 500 RC thru a Schroeder 4x10.

Tonight I ran the following basses thru the Streamliner:
Schecter Diamond J (basically a jazz with a little kick)
USACG parts P/J with DiMarzio pickups
77 Fender P with same P/J DiMarzios, strung BEAD
75 Fender P, stock
59 Fender P, stock
recent StingRay, strung BEAD
US Lakland JO4

With these axes, I could not get that high-high-mid tone out, no matter how much hair I put on it in the tube gain stage. The ONLY thing that worked was to select the highest of the mid options, and then crank them down to about 8 or 9 o'clock. Unfortunately, that made the thing sound muffled and I had to max the treble on the bass to make it sound 'open"....and that's just not an acceptable way to run a rig, in my opinion, because if you have to crank everything that much to get an acceptable tone, it gives you nowhere to go in the heat of battle...

Anybody else having this issue????

By the way, the bass that sounded best in this bunch was the Ray. I think it's because that's a frequency I am more used to hearing from the normal voice and bite of that axe.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:35 am

Johnny_B_Badd wrote:I know exactly what you're talking about. And I will be the first to attest to these STM's being real particular on cabinets and strings. As far as strings go. I was using DR high beams at the time of my first contact with my STM. And I had this horrible high/mid that either dialed in too bright, or too muddy. And this was through a Mesa Boogie RR1000 cabinet. I dialed out the horn, dialed the highs out a tad and it came across, not too bright, and not muddy at all. But I still had mids in there, which I go for mids with a ton of bottom end. I put the SR4 on with the Sheehan Rotosounds, and the whole dial in process was as easy as falling down. Took the gain out (active bass doesn't need that gain), dialed out a bit more of the mids and highs, and I had the same exact sound as Steve Harris. Which is exactly what I go for in sound. I swapped out the DR's for the Sheehan's and these basses all come across with a ton of bottom, a nice amount of mids, and a taste of highs.

Got the Uber4X10, and the dial in process was almost instant. Everything was damned near 12 o'clock. the STM900 with the Uber4X10 sounds damned near my 73 SVT with an 8X10 cab. Just a lot louder. :)

I hope you get this worked out. You seriously bought a killer piece of gear getting that STM. I know these STM900's are great for bassists who are 440, who are flat tuned, and even for those guys who tune down as far as C. I've had my rig out 3 times, and so far, 3 different bassists have run through my rig. And each time was the same effect. Stiff jeans and a smile that wouldn't quit the whole time they were playing it. So I really hope you get that same smile... Stiff jeans are all on you. lol


Thanks for the input Johnny. That brings some enlightenment. FWIW, that unit did go back to Genz Benz an tested out good. I would never doubt anyone's sound/tone preferences, as well all hear differently. We all know what we like and what we don't like! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]

I did have one funky night when I tweaked the knobs during a rushed sound check, and struggled to dial it in during the set. That sucked. :hid:
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Johnny_B_Badd » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:28 am

I know this whole amp thing comes down to individual taste on sound, tone, and volume. I initially went for this to lighten the load. I mean seriously, dragging 2 road cases, one with an SVT in it, it gets old real quick. And that Carvin. To an extent, it did its job and all. But for the most part, lacked big time. This rig is small in size, but HUGE in sound. This amp quickly replaced my SVT and Carvin the first time I had it out.

As for the Uber4X10. If you like that 8X10 tone, this will really put a smile on your face. I'm still amazed at how much bottom end this cab delivers. And still has a ton of mid on tap. :)


harleyyy wrote:
Thanks for the input Johnny. That brings some enlightenment. FWIW, that unit did go back to Genz Benz an tested out good. I would never doubt anyone's sound/tone preferences, as well all hear differently. We all know what we like and what we don't like! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]

I did have one funky night when I tweaked the knobs during a rushed sound check, and struggled to dial it in during the set. That sucked. :hid:
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Jerry » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:10 am

I had my Streamliner go down at tonight's gig, luckily I've been using a Avalon U5 as a direct box lately and was able to run that into aux input on the back of the Streamliner, worked great. It must be a tube in the preamp. The Streamliner had a tough year.... [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:41 am

Jerry wrote:I had my Streamliner go down at tonight's gig, luckily I've been using a Avalon U5 as a direct box lately and was able to run that into aux input on the back of the Streamliner, worked great. It must be a tube in the preamp. The Streamliner had a tough year.... [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]




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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby groovemachine » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:59 pm

Wow...this amp is really "all that"! I've been on the fence about taking the plunge since earlier in the year when people started raving about them. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one up through Pete and got it today. I already played it out even though I haven't had any time to really dial it in...I just ran it flat other than rolling the bass off a bit and getting some of that tube growl going. Great! All it took for me to fall in love with this amp was to plug in and turn it on. I'm sold. I will find my couple default settings through trial and error over the next few weeks, but I know it's all in there and more. What a great product!
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:35 am

groovemachine wrote:Wow...this amp is really "all that"! I've been on the fence about taking the plunge since earlier in the year when people started raving about them. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one up through Pete and got it today. I already played it out even though I haven't had any time to really dial it in...I just ran it flat other than rolling the bass off a bit and getting some of that tube growl going. Great! All it took for me to fall in love with this amp was to plug in and turn it on. I'm sold. I will find my couple default settings through trial and error over the next few weeks, but I know it's all in there and more. What a great product!



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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Jerry » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:07 am

Incoming......again. [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:35 am

Jerry wrote:Incoming......again. [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]



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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:13 pm

I just heard there is a VERY limited amount of the rack mount "ears" available. $80 plus shipping ( tax in Cali only.)

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby hmagman » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:50 pm

harleyyy wrote:I just heard there is a VERY limited amount of the rack mount "ears" available. $80 plus shipping ( tax in Cali only.)

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:01 pm

hmagman wrote:
harleyyy wrote:I just heard there is a VERY limited amount of the rack mount "ears" available. $80 plus shipping ( tax in Cali only.)

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:54 pm

A 600 in the actual rack...

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby hmagman » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:36 pm

harleyyy wrote:
hmagman wrote:
harleyyy wrote:I just heard there is a VERY limited amount of the rack mount "ears" available. $80 plus shipping ( tax in Cali only.)

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Bro, hook me up with one please... [smilie=music-smiley-005.gif]



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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:40 pm

Order is in Harry. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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