Genz Benz Streamliner 900

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Jerry » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:22 am

Pete, the 900 came a couple hours before my duo gig tonight, so nice to have it back..........thanks again big time!
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:37 am

Jerry wrote:Pete, the 900 came a couple hours before my duo gig tonight, so nice to have it back..........thanks again big time!
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby groovemachine » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:16 pm

Alright, I've had a chance to use this amp in quite a variety of environments now. It was a love/hate relationship for a couple weeks as I was trying to get the thing dialed in, but I've found my home settings. I played in 4 different venues this past weekend alone and it worked pretty well. My starting setting is bass @ 9 o'clock, mids @ 9 o'clock w/freq. @ 220Hz, and treble @ 10 o'clock.

I mostly make adjustments with the bass knob, either up or down depending on what's going on in the room. I like to set the gain just hot enough that I can get some growl if I really dig in. It seems to me like the amp performs best when it's been on for a while. This amp puts out a very warm and supportive sound and definitely sounds best out front as opposed to standing right next to the amp (at least with a P-bass through 2 Bag End S15-Ds). Even in loud settings I rarely run the master above about 9 o'clock (but I'm running the tube gain pretty hot and volume at noon)...this head has volume in spades!

I think ultimately I might've been happier with the Shuttle Max 9.2, but I'm not going to bother changing anything out for quite a while, if at all. This amp is forcing me to use a more supportive tone that might actually fit better in many musical situations. And, I definitely like the "tubey" vibe of it compared to really sterile solid-state front ends.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby FatherGino » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:16 pm

How stupid would I be to run three 8-ohm cabinets on this thing?
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Mr. Mom » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:34 am

FatherGino wrote:How stupid would I be to run three 8-ohm cabinets on this thing?


IIRC, they are 4 ohm capable. If that's the case, and not to offend, but you'd be pretty stupid to do that. [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]

Two 8 ohms cabs? Yes. Three? Not so much.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Freddels » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:33 pm

FatherGino wrote:How stupid would I be to run three 8-ohm cabinets on this thing?


Not if you're trying to make the magic smoke. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby FatherGino » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:17 pm

You guys and your rules. As if Ohm's law is a law or something.

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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby bigfatbass » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:55 pm

My Haiku on the topic:

First smoke, then silence
Expensive boutique amp dies
Very gracefully
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby bigfatbass » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:12 pm

On the thread topic, I got to run the Streamliner 900 in a BIG stack last saturday, with a T-bird on 11 playing a Black Crowes record. A full-range 15 with mid driver wide open on the floor, slaved through an ancient 200w Dean Markley solid state head (I got it from one of you guys, anybody remember who?). On top of that I put a 300w Avatar cube 12, and then a Genz-Benz Shuttle 6.0 combo cab, with the head removed as the cherry on top. I used the hot pre side, and never have I run this rig louder/punchier. It was devastating to stand in front of, simply devastating. I know I was eating the room like a fistful of peanuts and I didn't care. There were 2 Marshall 4x12s and a drummer trying to sound like Steve Gorman next to me, so I figured what the fuck? Game ON.

I just LOVE this head! Power for days, beef beyond belief, and I carry it in a padded projector case that totals out at 12lbs. It only has 2 flaws: the idiotic 3 band mid instead of a proper parametric sweep, and the insistence of every manufacturer to label their knobs on the underside in low contrast paint. I do not possess night vision, nor am I 3ft tall.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby hmagman » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:57 am

After approx. 3.5 years, my Streamliner 900 is still my "first call" amp head. Great product! I haven't heard a newer amp that compares with the 900 IMO. (Though the new Mesa Boogie (Prodigy) amps are pretty awesome.) [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby harleyyy » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:38 am

Harry, same here. I had a 600 that I sold to have a back up to my other 900. I have yet to use the back up. Very content and comfortable now to get the tones I need on the fly. One of the best products ever made for bass players hands down.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Jerry » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:13 pm

It still amazes me they would squash such a great product. I beat the fuck out of mine, it's still hanging in there.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby FatherGino » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:18 pm

Still very happy with mine. I have no other amp at all and I keep thinking I'll get another micro amp for a backup but this think never pull a sweat with me.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby Dean » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:40 am

I bought my Streamliner new in 2011. It's been used outside, inside, at home. Exceptionally impressive amp. There have been no problems whatsoever. Quite a few soundmen tell me how much they like the DI. The amp can get boomy, depending on the room and the instrument, but the eq usually solves the problem. I have a Mesa Prodigy too, but use the SM900 more often, and not because the SM900 has more power. I'm always interested to hear which cabinet playerts use with this amp.
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Re: Genz Benz Streamliner 900

Postby bigfatbass » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:41 pm

Ran mine through the previously mentioned shuttle 6 combo cab and the avatar cube 112 (WHY did Dave stop making square 112s?!?!?) for the Salt City Waltz show (see thread), and it sounded stellar. Thick, punchy, and with a HUGE range of growl available depending on my attack. Hit hard with a pick for Don't Do It, get all Phil Lesh-y for Dixie Down, and then pat it with me fingers for the Dylan ballads. Never turned around and touched the amp save maybe once or twice all night, and my bass is passive, nothing but a tone knob and pup fader.

The little glowy blue light inside went dead in the first year, just like it did in both my shuttles, but I prefer it dark anyway. Lights pointing back in your face off an amp make adjustments difficult under stage lighting, and to me are always a sign of an interface designed by someone who has never played a real gig.

Hardly an issue, to say the least, and I'd buy 2 more today as back ups if I had the cash/access.

On a side note, I used my shuttle 6 head through another avatar cube 12 for my show the night before so I could leave my "A rig" up after dress rehearsals, and boy did it get the job done! Been a long time since I ran it with just one cab in this particular club and for thanksgiving Friday crowd noise I still didn't feel like I was getting lost.

Whatever the big picture is, I hope Jeff et al's huge contributions to bass amp technology get resurrected and put back on the market again, and not just as some shitty Fender knock offs. Genz-Benz and MarkBass changed the rulebook before they were eaten by the giants.
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