For The Experts

For The Experts

Postby Dean » Wed May 13, 2009 9:41 am

Can one or more of the informed contributors to this forum tell me what finish was used on my 1976 StingRay? The bass is completely stock and original, sunburst color. There are no checking lines in the finish on body or neck. What did Leo use on these? Is it nitrocellulose? Polyurethane?

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Re: For The Experts

Postby PeppermanL2K » Wed May 13, 2009 11:35 am

Hey there, Dean. In addition, you may want to post your question on the EBMM forum. Plenty of knowledgeable folks there as well.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby harleyyy » Wed May 13, 2009 11:41 am

Pretty sure that''s Poly, my 79 is.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Rod Trussbroken » Wed May 13, 2009 2:54 pm

They had three finishes during the Pre-EB period starting with Nitro. That appears to be a 1976 Bass in the pic so it would have to be Nitro IMO. The checking and crazing was a prob accociated with a latter finish.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby harleyyy » Wed May 13, 2009 2:56 pm

Gav is the man that would know. I guess mine to be poly, since there is no checking or crazing, and it's not nitro. Nice bass by the way. Dig those radio knobs. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Dean » Wed May 13, 2009 3:14 pm

Thanks for the information gentlemen.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Rod Trussbroken » Thu May 14, 2009 1:16 am

harleyyy wrote:Gav is the man that would know. I guess mine to be poly, since there is no checking or crazing, and it's not nitro. Nice bass by the way. Dig those radio knobs. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]


Hey Pete...yours { and mine for that matter [smilie=icon_wink.gif] } are polyurethane. After the Nitro it was a Polyester finish and that was the one that would sometimes have probs.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Chuck B » Thu May 14, 2009 3:33 am

what a great bass!
don't think that brownie is nitro...
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Re: For The Experts

Postby harleyyy » Thu May 14, 2009 6:01 am

Rod Trussbroken wrote:
harleyyy wrote:Gav is the man that would know. I guess mine to be poly, since there is no checking or crazing, and it's not nitro. Nice bass by the way. Dig those radio knobs. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]


Hey Pete...yours { and mine for that matter [smilie=icon_wink.gif] } are polyurethane. After the Nitro it was a Polyester finish and that was the one that would sometimes have probs.


And I thought Poly was indestructible? [smilie=coz.gif]

Mine lives outside it's case, on a stand, away from the window. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Rod Trussbroken » Fri May 15, 2009 2:06 am

harleyyy wrote:
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harleyyy wrote:Gav is the man that would know. I guess mine to be poly, since there is no checking or crazing, and it's not nitro. Nice bass by the way. Dig those radio knobs. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]


Hey Pete...yours { and mine for that matter [smilie=icon_wink.gif] } are polyurethane. After the Nitro it was a Polyester finish and that was the one that would sometimes have probs.


And I thought Poly was indestructible? [smilie=coz.gif]

Mine lives outside it's case, on a stand, away from the window. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Funkster » Fri May 15, 2009 5:25 am

I have a 78 that's checked all over but i'm not sure if it's poly or Nitro either, is there a easy way to tell?
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Re: For The Experts

Postby harleyyy » Fri May 15, 2009 5:44 am

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Re: For The Experts

Postby Ken Baker » Fri May 15, 2009 2:32 pm

harleyyy wrote:And I thought Poly was indestructible?


There's poly and then there's poly.

Polyurethane (think Minwax or Flecto Varathane) is hellishly strong and can put up with all kinds of crap. There are different formulations for wood finishing use, typically interior and exterior, and there are other types are well. They are, for the most part, excellent finishes that will last for years given reasonable care.

Polyester (think Krylon and hobby finishes) is quick & easy to apply, handles and works like lacquer, and is cheap. Finish crazing is common, among other ills.

This may have been the period when George Fullerton's insistence on using only good stuff and good processes was temporarily overruled. Thankfully, it only lasted long enough for Leo to realize that the cost cutters were screwin' the pooch.

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Re: For The Experts

Postby Rod Trussbroken » Fri May 15, 2009 6:22 pm

Funkster wrote:I have a 78 that's checked all over but i'm not sure if it's poly or Nitro either, is there a easy way to tell?
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Hey Henry...The Nitro used by Music Man had a Blue tinge to it. I've just noticed now that Deans pic (first pics in this thread) has it too. You can see a hint of Blue caught by the light just above the pickguard. Some were Bluer than others.

PS. I love that 78 Bass.
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Re: For The Experts

Postby Chuck B » Sat May 16, 2009 2:35 am

throwing in my 78
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still very cool looking finish, no hairline cracks...
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