Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:26 pm

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Lately, I'm nutz about solid bodied FLs with piezos.
Am I the only one here thaz gotten into this genre ?

I realize there may be no one here [in the FL zone]
at all ... what with no activity for several months,
so this OP is possibly my shortest post ever [or at
least maybe almost ... ].

Anywho, such axen are amazing. Natcherly, I've
sampled quite a variety, and most of them have
followed me home [and almost none have gone].

Anybody ?

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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Mike Childree » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:22 am

After owning a Rob Allen for a while, I'm pretty enamored of that config myself. Initially, Karl Hoyt was going to put a piezo bridge on my Hoyt hollowbody, but I decided to go standard magnetic at the last minute, so the bass could be passive. I've also had a Godin that sounded great too...this setup is a lot more versatile than most people think.
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby hoytbasses » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:56 am

I've only built a couple solid bodied piezo fretless basses and they sounded outstanding.

my even mo bestest combination that I like is a small bodied acoustic bass guitar (3.5-3.75" deep..... 15-16" at lower bout), fretless (using macassar or cocobolo) and a K&L 'pure' pickup system. Put the thomastic acousticores on there and you have the most expressive, woody, sexy sounding bass I've ever heard. downright close approximation to an upright sound if you fool w/ the EQ.

so that's the long winded answer : yes, I like them a lot too!

(p.s..... Mike..... we made the right decision not to go piezo on willy G.: totally different vibe with that bass. And I'm not a huge fan of fretted piezo basses. too much of a clank factor IMO)
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby ghiadub » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:34 am

I totally dig the potential for a truly honest sound sound that is possible with Piezos and fretless, but just not a lot of the designs.

I have two Rob Allens, a fretted and a fretless. I am having another built with the intent of using it with acousticores (5 string mouse).

I have also owned a couple of the Turner Rens, which sound great but the ergonomics were killing me. Same deal with the Godins. 1st fret was just a bit too far away.

MOst of the EBMM and Peavey BB models I played I thought sounded too thin and anemic. It seems like they were made to blend but not be played with the piezo alone.
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Gil Escalera » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:58 am

I had a Turner Electroline 535 fretless in a Piezo-Magnetic-Magnetic pickup configuration. The piezo setting provided the greatest fretless sound, but was too accurate and foretelling for my 'hack' playing.

It was in a really nice piano black that looked AWESOME as well!

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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby MoBeach » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:08 am

I had a Yamaha TRB-6P with Piezos and soap bars. The Piezos had a good amount of definition but I rarely used just the Piezos, I usually blended it with the other pickups.
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby FatherGino » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:33 pm

I only ever had one; an EB SR5.I did find the piezo intriguing, but really had little real world experience with it. The damn thing had too many strings on it! The piezo by itself was nifty sounding when noodling alone in my room, but in a band, I preferred to blend the two PUs together. Overall, I found that bass to be too bland sounding. Nothing at all wrong with its sound. As a matter of fact it was perfect… too perfect. It lacked a personality.
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:15 pm

hoytbasses wrote:........
(p.s..... Mike..... we made the right decision not to go
piezo on willy G.: totally different vibe with that bass.

And I'm not a huge fan of fretted piezo basses. too much
of a clank factor IMO)


+1!

I'm such a slob on a fretted solid body, why would I
EVER consider a fretted hollow body to prove just
what a hopeless klutz I really am ....
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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:17 pm

Gil Escalera wrote:
I had a Turner Electroline 535 fretless in a Piezo-Magnetic-Magnetic
pickup configuration. The piezo setting provided the greatest fretless
sound, but was too accurate and foretelling for my 'hack' playing.

It was in a really nice piano black that looked AWESOME as well!

- Gil


IIRC, I shorted out a coupla PC KBs drooling over that'n .....


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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:28 pm

Mike Childree wrote:After owning a Rob Allen for a while, I'm pretty enamored of that config myself.
Initially, Karl Hoyt was going to put a piezo bridge on my Hoyt hollowbody, but I
decided to go standard magnetic at the last minute, so the bass could be passive.


You CAN have your cake and it it too .... http://www.electrocoustic.com/

Dave Wendler [link above] builds passive piezo instruments that DO NOT
require a megohms amp input to sound normal. He includes a humbugger
on the ax and that HB is employed to buffer the piezo ! IOW, a passive
piezo solution.

Oh yeah, and it's ON-topic for this thread ... solid body, usually red cedar,
with a very inneressin carve to it, to give it an acoustic sound. It's about
1.25" thick at the edge but only 0.5" thick at center, and it's arched. Sorta
like an arch-top except that it's not an arched TOP, it's an arched body.

OK .... do it work ? Well, I luuuurrrrrrv mine, and there's bo'kew sound
samples [whole tunes] on the Wendler site so you don't hafta take my
word for it. So what's the catch ? Wellll ... it's that you gotta suffer with
a mighty 6 lb ax that costs a mighty $1100 ..... HUH ? OK, thaz NOT the
catch. The catch is that you're always somewheres between 70/30 to
30/70 mag/piezo balance [you control by normal fader knob] ... AND ...
there's no EQ controls at all.


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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Paul DeLano » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:38 pm

My main bass these days is a piezo only fretless. I love the sound, and so does our engineer!

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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:45 pm

Paul DeLano wrote:My main bass these days is a piezo only fretless.
I love the sound, and so does our engineer!

Paul


If it's not a State Secret ... is this an ax that
ordinary civilians can acquire on an ordinary
income, from a music shop, or a GC or such ?


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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Freddels » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:03 pm

Golem wrote:
Paul DeLano wrote:My main bass these days is a piezo only fretless.
I love the sound, and so does our engineer!

Paul


If it's not a State Secret ... is this an ax that
ordinary civilians can acquire on an ordinary
income, from a music shop, or a GC or such ?


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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Paul DeLano » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:58 pm

Golem wrote:
If it's not a State Secret ... is this an ax that
ordinary civilians can acquire on an ordinary
income, from a music shop, or a GC or such ?

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Um, yes, yes, one or two, and, thankfully, no.

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It's this one from Bee Basses:

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Re: Piezo PU Solid Bodies .... who else ?

Postby Golem » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:50 pm

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So .... what applications/gigs for these
majackal beasties rock[s] your boat[s] ?

I play in drumless bands, incl a duo with
just a KB/vox for other half [other 2/3?].
In these low sound pressure situations the
musical voicing of these electric acoustic
mutts makes a major contribution to the
overall character of the band, especially
the duo.

In the duo, Ms Diva has, over the years,
been in lurv with various basses, incl a
Turner Ren 5 and MM piezo-equipt Ray5
and Boingo 4.


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