Getting some dirt

Getting some dirt

Postby Billhw13 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:44 am

Hey all -
I've typically played with a clean tone and have never really tried to do anything beyond that....but at a recent rehearsal, I was using the studio's ampeg set up and was pushing the amp to get some grind / dirt into my sound...and I liked it! I'm not talking about full on distortion or fuzz, but just a little dirt when pushed.
so, my question is, when you guys want to get that kind of tone, what pedals do you use? (assuming you're not running an all -tube or pre). In my mind, when I think of that sound, I think of Sansamp BDDI, but thought I'd ask you all...
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby harleyyy » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:58 am

Bill, I still use a Fulltone Bassdrive, coupled with the sansamp, it defies any tone suckage. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]


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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby GonzoBass » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:05 pm

Much like your experience in the studio,
I get overdrive by just pushing my amp a bit.

Yes, there's a fine line between distortion and dirt
and (to me) it's a matter of finding that precise Pregain knob setting
that provides grit only when you dig in,
not fuzz with every note you play.

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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby aussiemark » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:58 pm

For a little tube-like dirt I use one of the "Grunt" range from Cave Passive Pedals. The little B-drive is very handy, it lives in my gig bag for shows where unknown backline is supplied ....

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And I've just had one of these delivered today - 3 channels of dirt, in several flavours. And, just like the B-drive above, it is totally passive - no batteries or power needed ....

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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Billhw13 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:26 am

Thanks for the comments, guys.
Out of sheer curiosity - I have to look for some demo's on those Cave passive pedals...a passive pedal - interesting!

Like Gonzo, I just want it to break up when I'm digging in. I'm running a Carvin BX500 head which sounds pretty clean to my ears. It has a tube in the preamp section that really doesn't seem to do much (even with a swapped out tube) - but I need to try raising the gain on the pre and see how it sounds when pushed.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Mike Childree » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:49 am

I have an EBS Microbass II preamp/DI that has a really musical-sounding tube emulation and drive control. It works well either to warm up my really clean EA rig and also direct into the FOH. Makes a huge difference in what I hear in the IEMs.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby harleyyy » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:59 am

Billhw13 wrote:Thanks for the comments, guys.
Out of sheer curiosity - I have to look for some demo's on those Cave passive pedals...a passive pedal - interesting!

Like Gonzo, I just want it to break up when I'm digging in. I'm running a Carvin BX500 head which sounds pretty clean to my ears. It has a tube in the preamp section that really doesn't seem to do much (even with a swapped out tube) - but I need to try raising the gain on the pre and see how it sounds when pushed.



Billhw13 wrote: Like Gonzo, I just want it to break up when I'm digging in. I'm running a Carvin BX500 head which sounds pretty clean to my ears. It has a tube in the preamp section that really doesn't seem to do much (even with a swapped out tube) - but I need to try raising the gain on the pre and see how it sounds when pushed.


Ah, I thought you were looking for a fix with a pedal. The Gains on the Genz Benz heads are very effective, more so in the Streamliner series, which is attributed to the 3 12AX7's that are in the pre section instead of one.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Billhw13 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:25 am

Yeah, it does need to be done before the amp...the Carvin just doesn't do that grind. Tried it. Nothing.
I did find an old Tubeworks Blue Tube Bass Driver pedal in my gig bag...totally forgot about that. That'll be the next thing to try.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Rhian Batson » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:37 pm

I am also a huge fan of the Full Tone bass drive pedal - a great bass OD that's worth the dough IMO. I admit that I use it for loud face melter OD; not at all subtle but it can do that too [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif] For a mild, clean boost with a bit of grind, I actually use a cheap Ibanez tone-lok PD7 I think I picked up for 10 bucks in a clearance box. Like your rediscovered pedal, I had it hanging around and found this to be a great use for it vs dust collector. Gives a nice boost and a bit of an EQ scoop with some nice break up/dirt when pushed. Anyhow, there ya go, an expensive option and a cheap option both of which I use. Have fun geeking on OD pedals [smilie=food-smiley-004.gif]
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Jerry » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:02 pm

A Tech 21 VT pedal comes in and out of my setup from time to time, nice little grit adder-oner.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Billhw13 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:48 pm

so I was diggin thru the gig bag...
and found a Tubeworks Bluetube Tube driver. I added this to the signal chain, and while it adds grit, it just sounds a little too warm for me.
So I looked again in the gig back (who knew all this stuff was in there!?) and found an Aphex aural xciter pedal. I put this into the signal chain after the Bluetube.. Very cool!
I'm getting the grind from the bluetube and the xciter pedal is drawing out the tone with much more clarity. Haven't tried it out on a gig yet, but I think it has potential.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby felig » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:12 am

Recently, I've been using a Fulltone Fat Box. I use mine to fill out the tone, but I think you can also get a bit of dirt...I'll experiment a little to see. Anyway, it's the only pedal that I am currently using.
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Freddels » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:09 am

aussiemark wrote:For a little tube-like dirt I use one of the "Grunt" range from Cave Passive Pedals. The little B-drive is very handy, it lives in my gig bag for shows where unknown backline is supplied ....

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And I've just had one of these delivered today - 3 channels of dirt, in several flavours. And, just like the B-drive above, it is totally passive - no batteries or power needed ....

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That bottom one looks interesting. Are there any video demos of it yet?
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby aussiemark » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:38 pm

Freddels wrote:That bottom one looks interesting. Are there any video demos of it yet?


http://www.youtube.com/v/bBT4lgt7LMw

http://www.youtube.com/v/hVig5KXYqzg
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Re: Getting some dirt

Postby Rhian Batson » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:18 pm

aussiemark wrote:
Freddels wrote:That bottom one looks interesting. Are there any video demos of it yet?


http://www.youtube.com/v/bBT4lgt7LMw

http://www.youtube.com/v/hVig5KXYqzg


The bottom one looks steam powered :hid:
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