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Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:33 am

We're doing a tune (Let Me Go Home Whiskey by Louis Jordan) that just hold's the root A for an eternity before the turn to the IV chord. I'm having a hard time finding a line(s) that's not tooo repititive. Got anything cool that you use?
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby MickeyOne » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:14 pm

What's the groove like? Fast shuffle?
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ghiadub » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:16 pm

If it was me, within the context of keeping the bass line going to support whatever else is happening musically,
I might pull back a little and make some space to play with.
Then while still keeping the groove bubbly, get longer phrases going with the drummer using the newly acquired space.
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:57 am

Yeah fast shuffle. The bass and drums are really pushing
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby SmittyG » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:21 am

I would probably do a jazz style modal walk.
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby GonzoBass » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:24 am

First off-
What does the bassist on the original recording do?

Sometimes repetitive is nice
and can be part of our job description
(that's when I get to watch what ever is happening on the big screens at the bar)
but bass licks between verses can help to keep it interesting too,
even if it's just a slide up to an octave.

Hell, look how many guitar licks Carlos Santana can scribble over someone else's song.
He's filling not only between verses but during the verses
(seems like every time the singer takes a breath there's a Carlos "bwee-dip").
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:41 am

I would probably do a jazz style modal walk.


That's what I'm talking about. Only thing is, I'm a bar band hack. No real jazz skills. Anybody got an example for me to work from?

What does the bassist on the original recording do

I don't have the original Louis Jordan or any other recording of this tune. Years ago I learned it off an old western swing album and as I recall the bassist was doing a basic I-V thing. We've adopted it as a jump blues.
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby SmittyG » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:10 pm

The easiest way to do the walking is to start with the chord. From the lowest note on your bass to the highest (well, ok, maybe up to the 12th fret) play every possible chord tone. For example, an A7 chord would be the notes A, C#, E and G. Next, try to target it so that you are hitting chord tones on beats 1 and 3 and chromatic passing tone on beats 2 and 4. Keep it simple, a half step above or below the next chord tone in the direction you are currently moving. Blues guys sometimes get nervous if the bass isn't really hitting the root on "1", if that happens, I make sure I hit an A on the first beat of every other measure. Finally, time it so you do a cool A, B, C, C#, D walk into that four chord. All is good.

Trust me, it is way more complicated to type out and read it than to just do it. With a couple of tries, at most, the guys in your band will be going, "Whoa, where did that come from?" [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:00 pm

Tanx Mister Smith. I'll work with those ideas.
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby GonzoBass » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:16 pm

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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:00 pm

Thanks Gonz. What a cool site! That should really help.
It's amazing how much great stuff is out there for free.
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby aussiemark » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:15 pm

GonzoBass wrote:Any help here?

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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby hoytbasses » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:15 am

my approach to a jump blues is to lock in with the drummer and keep things simple. I finally learned after 30+ years of playing with bands that I don't always have to make a 'statement'. my job is to keep the chord structure locked and the rhythm on point (AND keep the drummer in line... know what I'm talking about boys?" [smilie=food-smiley-004.gif] )

my gut approach, having played a bunch of Louie Jordan is to simply play the root with quarter notes over the first 4-8 bars, then, as the vocals build, let the bass build with fills and/or walking. especially since the feel of a jump blues is 1 and 1and 1and 1and with the piano or rhythm guitar picking up the 'and'.

My favorite pattern over a 1-and kind of rythm is (each note on the 1/4 note) 1-6-5-3 -1-3-5-6

but what do I know, my ears are full of sawdust :-)
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Re: Jump Blues Help

Postby ampig » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:50 am

Thanks Mr H
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