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Re: Dead Spots

Postby steveonbass » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:18 pm

i would avoid making generalizations about brands and materials concerning dead spots. I had spots on my US Lakland and, when I worked at a guitar shop, I've found them on Modulus and Roscoe basses when people claimed their bass didn't have any. Every instrument, regardless of material, will differ. If you need to generalize, you should generalize that all basses have them. (not trying to start flames in the thread - again just stating my opinion)
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby nolabass » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:34 pm

Eh, maybe...if your dead set on finding a spot with less sustain than other notes then....ya....you'll find them. Now we have to debate how long a note should last before we call it dead?.....what about flats, old strings....really? A blanket statement stating they all have dead spots, when we won't agree on what a dead spot is, holds as much water as expensive basses don't have them....don't you think?
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby steveonbass » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:48 pm

nolabass wrote:if your dead set on finding a spot with less sustain than other notes then....ya....you'll find them.


that is what a dead spot is. what else would it be?
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Dead Spots

Postby harleyyy » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:16 pm

steveonbass wrote:
nolabass wrote:if your dead set on finding a spot with less sustain than other notes then....ya....you'll find them.


that is what a dead spot is. what else would it be?


I find dead spots to also have a lesser volume output and/or punch.
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby steveonbass » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:43 pm

ok, sorry to be so argumentative. Even on my most dead-spot having bass, I could play around the spots and it only really affected me in two places. Even if i hadn't known what a dead spot was, no one in the audience would have perceived any difference. I am having a difficult time at work and I think it's making me argumentative (well, MORE argumantative). Sorry - I'm gonna go relax a bit. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby harleyyy » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:46 pm

steveonbass wrote:ok, sorry to be so argumentative. Even on my most dead-spot having bass, I could play around the spots and it only really affected me in two places. Even if i hadn't known what a dead spot was, no one in the audience would have perceived any difference. I am having a difficult time at work and I think it's making me argumentative (well, MORE argumantative). Sorry - I'm gonna go relax a bit. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]


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Re: Dead Spots

Postby iammr2 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:48 pm

GonzoBass wrote:The Moses solid Graphite neck on my Wilkat has a dead 12th fret G.
Dead spot?
Dunno.
Bad fret?
Maybe, but its seated fine
and it's only the G string at the 12th fret.
Sustain just dies there.
Rapidly.

..and for the record:
(Original) Steinbergers are composite plastic necks with a graphite fretboard.
Still = Good though.
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Had a Lakie the same way. They couldn't fix it and the note was absolutely unusable. Gone now.
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby Cheap Bass Tard » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:13 pm

For me a dead spot is where the fundamental decays rapidly leaving only the overtones.
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby GonzoBass » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:57 am

Gil Escalera wrote:For the record... ;)


Okay,
(Original) Steinbergers are epoxy resin reinforced with carbon graphite and glass fibre necks with a fibre-reinforced phenolic resin fretboard.

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Re: Dead Spots

Postby Jerry » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:03 am

Both Jaco and Marcus Miller have talked about the dead spots on their Fenders, they sure did alright working around them. Me, I'm a dead spot! [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby harleyyy » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:29 am

Cheap Bass Tard wrote:For me a dead spot is where the fundamental decays rapidly leaving only the overtones.



Youurs ear are better than mine. My head rings all the time. Does that count? [smilie=grinning-smiley-044.gif]
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby Cheap Bass Tard » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:35 pm

Actually, I never really found them until I tried using an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe and noticed it would "drop track" really quickly in a couple spots. Then I listened carefully. And now I am so anal retentive about it that it's causing a new onslaught of extreme GAS.
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Re: Dead Spots

Postby Golem » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:00 pm

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Maybe we ask for TOO MUCH sustain, in general ... and there will
be spots on most basses that don't deliver that at every point on
the neck.

Consider the old Fenders that routinely had dead spots. Maybe if
you don't remove the ash trays with their built=in foam dampers
then you wouldn't be so bugged with varying sustain, note to note.

I am tempted to point out which of my basses seem to lack dead
spots, but then I feel I should disqualify myself, cuz most of my
basses are equipt with home-made damping devices that are
there to reduce sustain, and they are not designed to be quickly
disengaged .... likewise the foam-lined Fender ash trays.

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FWIW, in my admittedly odd experience, I'd recommend that
which has served me well .... which is:

Graphite necks. [Moses and Berger]
3-piece and 5-piece ovangcal or wenge necks. [Warwick]


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