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So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby harleyyy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:22 pm

is a bad set up??? [smilie=coz.gif]

Then no fret buzz is overrated. Thanks for sharing Ray Duke...

http://www.youtube.com/v/GRjAgl1d ... ture=share
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Rob Francis » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:45 pm

Well that and the little cape. :hid:
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby DaveyG67 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:21 pm

Then no fret buzz is overrated


I concur 100%... [smilie=icon_biggrin.gif]

I also checked out the isolated bass track for "Rio" by Duran Duran... trippy how these tracks sound when compared to the final mix... some little imperfections that are not noticeable when all the other tracks are mixed in. Makes me feel a little better about some of the stuff I've tracked in the studio. [smilie=cool-smiley-031.gif]
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Rob Francis » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:36 pm

Personally I think they add some degree of texture to the mix.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby harleyyy » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:43 pm

Ya, if it was me, I can hear parts that I would have wanted to do over, but it's Chris Squire, and you really can't hear them as "mistakes". I think the more relaxed approach, finds the groove with more feel, instead of trying too hard to not make mistakes. The fret buzz just blows me away.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby noahvale » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:51 am

E minor is the coolest key.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby steveonbass » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:49 am

sounds how i imagined - a rick with a pick. Not a lot of opportunities to clean up notes or mute at that speed. makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Mike Childree » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:19 am

Based on which setups have allowed me to most closely duplicate Geddy Lee's tones, I would suspect you'd hear more than a little fret buzz on his isolated tracks, too.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby harleyyy » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:25 am

Mike Childree wrote:Based on which setups have allowed me to most closely duplicate Geddy Lee's tones, I would suspect you'd hear more than a little fret buzz on his isolated tracks, too.


I agree Mike. What I found most surprising on this track, was the amount of fret buzz on the longer sustaining notes.
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby harleyyy » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:08 am

Here's Geddy's track from Tom Sawyer, which I believe was recorded on his Ric. Not nearly the amount of fret buzz, but KILLER tone ...

http://www.youtube.com/v/BlGibhuobrM
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Gil Escalera » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:55 am

harleyyy wrote:Here's Geddy's track from Tom Sawyer, which I believe was recorded on his Ric. Not nearly the amount of fret buzz, but KILLER tone ...

Actually, that's his '72 Jazz. He recorded with the Jazz on Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, and Signals and played it on those tours as well. [smilie=cool-smiley-027.gif]

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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby harleyyy » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:22 pm

Gil Escalera wrote:
harleyyy wrote:Here's Geddy's track from Tom Sawyer, which I believe was recorded on his Ric. Not nearly the amount of fret buzz, but KILLER tone ...

Actually, that's his '72 Jazz. He recorded with the Jazz on Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, and Signals and played it on those tours as well. [smilie=cool-smiley-027.gif]

Regardless of what bass, the tone is killer! [smilie=music-smiley-005.gif]

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I stand corrected sir Gila! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Gohloum » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:11 pm

Hmmmm... Fret buzz. Well why not take it even further to those NovaTone Switchcraft fretboards from the 80's? If you recall (or were around then), they were those magnetic, switchable fingerboards and one of them had a fretless that was basically 1 giant fret covering the whole fingerboard. Tony Levin's got one of these on a MM that he use to get his mugshot with for magazines and such. I'm not too familiar with Tony's discography, but I have heard a few tracks with that thing and it's awesome! A fretbuzzing fretless! Add a little distortion and you got a mega-expressive growl monster.

... But a great boutique beer over 8% will get you a good buzz too! [smilie=food-smiley-004.gif]
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Mr. Mom » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:57 am

Ahhhhh....The "bass tone in a mix vs the bass tone soloed" discussion. Personally, it's something I've never been able to come to grips with.

Whenever I've done studio work I always try to hang around while the mix happens. Soloed bass (At least mine!) generally sounds like ass. But put it in the mix and it works.

An upright classical teacher of mine was a tone freak. I was complaining to him once about my terrible bowed tone. (Like a cow giving birth. Really bad.) His response was "It's got to have SOME kind of nastiness to cut through the whole orchestra." He then told me some stories of him playing with top notch classical players/opera singers and how, up close, they sounded like sh*t. BUT, out in the audience? Their tone was sweet.

I think this applies to Chris Squire's tone, no? There's some soloed tracks of The Who where the bass sounds like crap. But I think we all know what the end results are with The Ox!
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Re: So Chris Squire's tone secret...

Postby Floyd Eye » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:34 am

Don't know about that specific song but Geddy used his Ric as well as the jazz on Moving Pictures.

A big part of Chris's tone was also his picking technique. Just the tip of the pick with the meat of his thumb striking the string as well. Also SS strings, Ric-o-Sound and some overdriven amps.
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