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Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Gil Escalera » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:16 pm

I have a guitar playing friend who told me he hooked up with a singer/harp player who can NAIL the vocals and harmonica solo on the Doobie Brothers "Long Train Running." He says he has been playing this song for sooo long that he can totally mimic the lead and rhythm guitar parts as well.

He recently got a copy of Cakewalk recording software and a USB interface for his new laptop and got into recording. He's loving it! So now, just for fun and practice, he said wants to record Long Train Running and see how close to the original he can get with his new toys.

He asked me, "If you were to record the bass part for Long Train Running how would you go about getting that sound? What bass, type of pickups, strings, effects, amp, d-box, fingers or pick, etc.?"

I know a lot of you have a lot more experience with this than me, so I thought I'd ask here (just for fun and out of curiosity). The goal is to try and mimic the original recording as much as possible.

So... what say ye?

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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Mike Childree » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:00 pm

I'd say something passive with flats and a foam mute, played with a pick.
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:17 pm

Definitely a pick. When I was a young pick player Tiran was one of my favorite players.
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby harleyyy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:48 pm

Amazing how Willie Weeks managed to capture it with finger style and live...

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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Rhian Batson » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:34 am

I agree that a Pbass and flats gets you very close. Plug that into a nice tube amp and I think it's even better. I also found a video of them on you tube from 1973 and the bass looks like a Gibson EB3 ... sounds like it too :hid:

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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Mr. Mom » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:37 am

Great bass line and even better tone on that track! Not to mention a baddass bass player.

I'm going to say flats and a decent foam mute would get you pretty darn close. My unedumacated two cents.
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Gil Escalera » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:16 am

Yeah, I told the guy what I hear is:

• Gibson EB series bass (humbucker pickups)
• Flatwound strings (Labella)
• Stiff pick
• Tube amp with a 15" speaker (Ampeg or Peavey)

I said that I thought I got a good facsimile of that sound before using a Fender P-bass with Fender flats and a Fender Heavy Tortoise pick going thru my Fender Bassman 135 w/Fender Bassman 4x12" cab. I used a BOSS Graphic Eq pedal with a slight "happy face" setting to top it off.

I also told him that, equipment-wise, a good P-bass w/flats played with a pick going thru a SansAmp Bass Driver DI into his USB interface should work just fine. The rest [tone] is up to the player and his fingers. ;)

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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby pbassplayer » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:18 pm

i agree w/ mike c. p/bass..flatwounds..pick
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby ampig » Fri May 03, 2013 10:01 am

Long Train Running? Never heard of it
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Golem » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:56 pm

ampig wrote:Long Train Running? Never heard of it


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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby ampig » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:34 am

Despite the fact that it's been grossly overplayed, I still like the tune. It's a great bass line.
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Freddels » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:07 am

I can get that tone with my '62AVRI precision with Labella flats on it. Played through a nice tube amp (like the Fender Super Bassman) and you're there. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby hoytbasses » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:07 pm

wrong... it's a 12 string Conklin with stainless steel strings played through a bass synth patched into a mini moog... I'm sure of it! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]

have a great weekend all!

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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby Freddels » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:43 pm

hoytbasses wrote:wrong... it's a 12 string Conklin with stainless steel strings played through a bass synth patched into a mini moog... I'm sure of it! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]

have a great weekend all!

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Ohhh, that was going to be my second guess. [smilie=grinning-smiley-044.gif]
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Re: Long Train Running - How do you get that sound?

Postby jshilgebass » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:50 pm

Here's an interview with Tiran Porter in Bass Player magazine from a few years back. Link
After reading this, nailing down his sound might prove to be difficult.


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