The big refin project

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The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:00 pm

So, I picked up a great bass from Uncle Kevin, a 59 P that was stripped and stained some fugly puppy shit brown.

It plays great and sounds INCREDIBLE.

But it is truly FUGLY.

I got in touch with RS Guitarworks today to talk to them about refinning it. They say they might be able to do it sunburst (my first choice) but that the stain may have penetrated too far to strip it out and do a good 'burst. They want me to have a second color (obviosuly a solid color) as a backup.

So, here's a couple of questions:

What were the available custom colors from Fender in 1959?

I can also consider a few other colors, but the 'guard is tortoise. I dig LPB and Sherwood Green, but didn't they come later, and with the w/b/w 'guard?

Any opinions appreciated.....
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Re: The big refin project

Postby harleyyy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:15 pm

There are a couple charts here...

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html


I am pretty sure 1960 offered alot more custom color options.
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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:31 pm

Thanks, Peter. I did find this buried in there:

[QUOTE}1950's Custom Colors.

Custom colors weren't standardized until 1960, when the first custom color chart was available from Fender. Before 1960, custom colors were (for the most part) selected by the customer, not by Fender. The 1956 Fender catalog states, "Stratocaster guitars are available in DuPont Duco colors of the player's choice at an additional 5% cost". Because of this, 1950's custom color Fenders are true custom colors. Therefore it is impossible to determine exactly which colors Fender used in the 1950's. We can only guess that a metallic blue 1958 Strat is Lake Placid Blue, especially if it was stored "environmentally unfriendly". But we can rule out some colors for some years from the "standard" list. For example, you best not be calling your red 1956 Strat "Dakota Red"; the earliest you'll see the actual color Dakota Red used is 1958, the year it was introduced on Cadillacs. Likewise, the famous gold 1958 Strat can not be Shoreline Gold (especially if you've ever seen the "real" Shoreline Gold). GM didn't introduce that color till 1959. [/QUOTE]

And there's a nice chart of which colors were available on which cars. So that helps a lot.
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Re: The big refin project

Postby Freddels » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:53 pm

Shell pink or Foam Green would look pretty nice.
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Re: The big refin project

Postby harleyyy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:09 pm

Any chance that the body is ash? You could go blond [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:38 pm

Nah, it's definitely alder.
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Re: The big refin project

Postby nolabass » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:58 pm

It would seem ashamed to put an "as new" color on that bass. Could they match the tone of a faded original color? Like what a 40 year old LPB would look like now? I don't care for a fresh Fiesta Red, too bright and orange, but a faded one looks warm and mello. That's what I love about the old colors.... the tones they are after a lifetime of gigging. Not reliced mind you... just matching the natural faded tones. It's already and will always be a refin..... might as well go for what pleases you regardless. IMHO YMMV
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Re: The big refin project

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:21 am

Tris - Im almost certain that a 2 tone 57/58 burst would be fine. I wouldnt jump off yet. IMHO, all they'd have to do is prep the body. If theres any bleed into the wood deep, with this color scheme I think you'd be fine. IF the had to shoot a solid color, you HAVE TO go medium to dark in color. NO DOUBT daKOTA would be bitchin! DOnt use a color that people only dream of ever seeing or you'll get sick of... Pete, its not ash,..
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Re: The big refin project

Postby Freddels » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:37 am

No pic, no fugly 59P. worthless_without
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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:24 am

Yeah, I'm trying to find a few pix....lemme see what I can dig up.

EDIT: OK, here's pix of the body and 'stock. At least you can get the idea....

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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:42 am

nolabass wrote:It would seem ashamed to put an "as new" color on that bass. Could they match the tone of a faded original color? Like what a 40 year old LPB would look like now? I don't care for a fresh Fiesta Red, too bright and orange, but a faded one looks warm and mello. That's what I love about the old colors.... the tones they are after a lifetime of gigging. Not reliced mind you... just matching the natural faded tones. It's already and will always be a refin..... might as well go for what pleases you regardless. IMHO YMMV


Absolutely, RS does great aging. I have a oly white bass that isn't yellowed yet but you can tell it will soon. They do a nice job of creating finish checking.

I don't dig most reds -- dakota, fiesta, fullerton. I sorta dig the old CAR, but really, not that much.

I may just have them do an aged balck if I have to go solid. It's look cool with the tort.

And yeah, Kevin, I think I'll make sure to ask if the old 2-tone 'burst will cover. One they get it stripped, they're supposed to call me so we can talk about what will work....
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Re: The big refin project

Postby DKWilkins » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:24 pm

Am I the only one thinkin' Tris needs a bass in Mary Kay pink? [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]
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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:34 pm

DKWilkins wrote:Am I the only one thinkin' Tris needs a bass in Mary Kay pink? [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]


Um.....no. Pink basses are not my thing.

Got this thing to UPS on Friday. They should get it this week!
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Re: The big refin project

Postby GonzoBass » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:25 pm

I can definitely see it in a nice 'burst,
but gotta say that it sure looks "loved" to me as is.
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Re: The big refin project

Postby dukeplaysbass » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:29 pm

Spoke the cats at RS this morning -- they've stripped it and they think they can do a 3-tone 'burst!!!!!
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