Oval Tuners... How early??

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Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby DaveyG67 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:48 pm

Kebo, maybe you can help me here... what was the earliest you have seen ovals appear on a J bass? You ever see an early '65 J with no binding & ovals?
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby harleyyy » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:10 pm

Of course Kebo will know for sure, but I think they showed up late in 65', not early. [smilie=coz.gif]
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby hmagman » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:20 pm

harleyyy wrote:Of course Kebo will know for sure, but I think they showed up late in 65', not early. [smilie=coz.gif]

My late '65 Jazz has the ovals on it. No binding either...picture below. I think Kebo also said late '65. He'll be here soon...I'm guessing.
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:19 pm

OFFICIALLY late 65, I just saw a late 64 with them. The 64 had a 7 Dec 64 neck w/6522 pots. This was a late assembled bass no doubt. THE ONLY way to tell if the bass originally had these tuners is to take one off. The holes do not line up with reverse wind Klusons. If you have 1 setta holes, your kosher... Ok, to answer the ???, its late 65.. KeBo
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby DaveyG67 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:21 pm

Cool, thanks Kebo... I know about the difference in the hole patterns from the Klusons & Ovals... I'm trying to ID a bass from pictures at this point... hopefully I'll get to see it in person soon. A friend of a friend is selling a '65ish Jazz, black w/matching headstock, dots (no binding) believed to be all orig. except for a BadAss bridge, Bartolini's & probably pickguard too ... trying to figure the value as well.
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby harleyyy » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:10 am

Wow :drool
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:17 am

Word of advice - even pros such as myself get a second opinion on black Fenders. They are VERY easy to fake
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby harleyyy » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:24 am

Davey, from here those look like clay dots, which would be VERY cool, pearls showed up in 64. There should be a paint stick mark, but a peak under the guard and glimpse of the neck stamp would reveal alot more as you know. Heed Kebo's advice [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby ghiadub » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:34 am

I love the look of that one.

Dave, if you pick this up and want to dump the Barts, I might be interested.
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby pbassplayer » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:38 pm

i had a aug 65 jazz bass that had a combination of pre and post cbs features. it was a great player

oval tuners (my march 65 didn't)
the bridge had threaded saddles ( as did my jan 66 j/bass,along w ovals )
a bigger neck (than the other 65) w/ unbound fingerboard w/ dot markers ( not the "clay" type)
the pre cbs style sunburst finish
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby harleyyy » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:22 pm

Davey called me the other day. This is actually a 62 (note the clay dots). He will be checking it thoroughly, but the tuners were obviously swapped at some point.
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby nolabass » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:39 pm

Is it the pic angle or is the "G" tuner slightly off the edge of the headstock? Seems like I have seen this before. Is this a clue to switched tuners as well? Or are these naturally very close to the edge or over?
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby DaveyG67 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:57 pm

s it the pic angle or is the "G" tuner slightly off the edge of the headstock? Seems like I have seen this before. Is this a clue to switched tuners as well? Or are these naturally very close to the edge or over?


Sometimes it's an optical illusion... I've seen that before in pics. However, I've recently learned those are not the original tuners... according to the seller, this bass is actually a '62!! Old refin (in late '70's).... I'm meeting with the seller to view the bass on Monday... more to follow, stay tuned.... [smilie=grinning-smiley-044.gif] ...Pete, just now saw your post before Nola's... Doh!
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby DaveyG67 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:47 pm

Got home with this bass 'bout an hour ago, checked the neck date: 12-62... slab & clay dots, of course. Most importantly: TONE!! OMFG!! Plugged in to the Ampeg B-15S, very resonant... weighs 9.2lbs. If I lose the BadAss and put a stock Fender bridge, it'll probably weigh in at less than 8.5 I'm guessing.
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Re: Oval Tuners... How early??

Postby harleyyy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:54 pm

Cool, one thing that jumps out ..... I thought slabs transitioned to veneer boards in mid summer of 62? [smilie=coz.gif]


I know, never say never with Fender. I hope it's all that for you Dave. Post some more pics! [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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