Pickguard Deterioration

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Pickguard Deterioration

Postby ampig » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:44 am

My recently purchased 68 Tele bass appears to have the original pickguard. I understand that most of the pickguards on these basses fell apart and had to be replaced. I wonder why mine didn't and what I can do to make sure that it doesn't in the future. Would keeping a bass in or out of the case make a difference?

Same goes for the original (never rewound) pickup
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby nolabass » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:13 am

I don't know much except every time I take a screw out the guard on my '66 it suffers. I broke corners off the guard messing with it where it might have been fine otherwise. If it's original don't fuck with it IMHO. Shrinkage will be a factor sooner or later I imagine depending on the material. Again...don't know much. [smilie=tosser.gif]
I can say the longer I own a bass the less I worry abut fine details. My '66 guard is ruff and I have put some wear and tear on the bass...... letting it mature and ripen. [smilie=fun_84.gif]
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby Rob Francis » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:00 pm

What Pete said. DON't take it off unless it is critical.
The old guards draw tight to the screws and as soon as they are relieved of the stress they draw up.
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby ampig » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:45 am

I'm cool with that. I'm not gonna be tinkeing around this bass. Unfortuntaely any neck adjustments, if needed, will require removal of the pg.
I'm just wondering if being kept in the case or out would be the reason behind why some pickguards/pickups are trash and some aren't
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby harleyyy » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:46 am

ampig wrote:I'm cool with that. I'm not gonna be tinkeing around this bass. Unfortuntaely any neck adjustments, if needed, will require removal of the pg.
I'm just wondering if being kept in the case or out would be the reason behind why some pickguards/pickups are trash and some aren't



It takes years in a sealed case for that to even possibly happen.
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:02 am

Ditto - 99.9% of these are gone.. BTW, dont go near it with a lit ciggy either..
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby felig » Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:20 pm

harleyyy wrote:
ampig wrote:I'm cool with that. I'm not gonna be tinkeing around this bass. Unfortuntaely any neck adjustments, if needed, will require removal of the pg.
I'm just wondering if being kept in the case or out would be the reason behind why some pickguards/pickups are trash and some aren't



It takes years in a sealed case for that to even possibly happen.


And, if its been in a sealed case for years, it's very likely that the degradation of the guard has done some badness to some of the frets & other metal parts. On the 68 that I used to own, I put on a repro guard right away because there was some corrosive nastiness going on the metal parts, the guard was actually in slightly better condition to the metal.

BTW, dont go near it with a lit ciggy either..


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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby ampig » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:21 am

The intent of my original question was - Does keeping a bass in the case contribute to deterioration of the pickguard?"It sounds like the answer is yes and that the pickguard deterioration will also cause damage to hardware (maybe even the pickup?)
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby harleyyy » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:27 am

ampig wrote:The intent of my original question was - Does keeping a bass in the case contribute to deterioration of the pickguard?"It sounds like the answer is yes and that the pickguard deterioration will also cause damage to hardware (maybe even the pickup?)


Only if you leave it in there for years. If you plan on playing it, you'll be fine.
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby ampig » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:06 am

Apparently this bass was left (sans case) and forgotten in the back of an old band touring bus that had been abandoned for years. Despite those harsh conditions, it may explain why the pickguard and pickup are still intact.
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Pickguard Deterioration

Postby harleyyy » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:59 pm

Yep, in a sealed environment, the phenomenon is known as "de-gassing" IIRC.


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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:37 pm

Howard - The answer is yes, yes and yes. The case doesnt help. We bought a 69 Tbass that the guard rotted thru all 4 strings, ate the finish and put a hole in the cover. It also eat the top right off the bobbin
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Re: Pickguard Deterioration

Postby ampig » Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:50 am

My wife just bought me a brand new period correct black tolex Fender case for the Tele. I guess I'll only use the case for special occasions, unless all the gas has escaped from the pickguard by now.......... [smilie=cheeky-smiley-025.gif]
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