I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

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I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby Ken » Sat May 24, 2008 3:32 pm

What do you think? I doubt the neck plate is original...think the rest is legit?

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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby cripula » Sat May 24, 2008 5:00 pm

Pretty bad set of pics to go by, but the price is sure right!
That looks to be a non original guard, there are no holes for a thumb rest. Strap buttons look black, which obviously would be wrong. Case is non original. Neck plate is incorrect, as you noted.

Good luck with it - for $1500 I don't think you'll go too far wrong. Interested in the update when you get it in your hot little hands...!
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby harleyyy » Sat May 24, 2008 5:54 pm

It definitely appears to be 74ish . If it had the shorter stemmed tuners ( I think they showed up in 77-78 ), I'd be concerned with the liekly heavy weight of northern ash. Looks like a nice deal from here. [smilie=grinning-smiley-003.gif]
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby felig » Sun May 25, 2008 7:58 am

My guess is that the body is a later body. I think that a '74 would have been pre-drilled for the bridge "ashtray" cover. which would have been installed at the factory. The neck plate looks like it might be from a Japanese-made Fender.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby felig » Sun May 25, 2008 8:05 am

I took another look at the neck plate & what I thought might be an access hole for neck tilt adjustment (between the 2 top screws on the plate), might in fact just be a reflection. The reason that I said "Japanese" was that I think that even on the American '80s era 4 bolt w/neck tilt adjuster, the hole for the neck tile adjust ment was between the bottom 2 screws on the plate. Actually, that's the only place that it would make sense for the neck tilt adjuster to be--so, never mind.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby Rich M » Sun May 25, 2008 10:14 am

Looks like a good score.

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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby steveonbass » Sun May 25, 2008 1:17 pm

My guess is that, if it's vintage, it's a 75 neck - 74 has the truss at the butt-end and 76 had an S6 serial number - maybe the neck has been redrilled for a 4 bolt and has a micro-tilt in the butt? Just thinking as I type here. The pickups look right, tuners look right - the photos could not be much less revealing. The body and whatever is under the guard is anyones guess. Hope it's legit - let us know what's under there! As noted, plate,guard, bridge, strap buttons are wrong and you can't see the knobs so who knows. It definitely needs a serious setup.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby Ken » Sun May 25, 2008 8:58 pm

Damn Steve, you're right about the bullet truss and neck plate mismatch. I wish I had noticed that. [smilie=smilie_kopf.gif] I hope it's a keeper.
I hate the idea of selling this as a parts bass at a loss within the the next few weeks.



My guess is that, if it's vintage, it's a 75 neck - 74 has the truss at the butt-end and 76 had an S6 serial number - maybe the neck has been redrilled for a 4 bolt and has a micro-tilt in the butt? Just thinking as I type here. The pickups look right, tuners look right - the photos could not be much less revealing. The body and whatever is under the guard is anyones guess. Hope it's legit - let us know what's under there! As noted, plate,guard, bridge, strap buttons are wrong and you can't see the knobs so who knows. It definitely needs a serious setup.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby harleyyy » Sun May 25, 2008 10:13 pm

Ken, looking at the body finish, if it matches closely to what's under the guard, it could very well be a US vintage white, MIJ, or aftermarket . You'll know as soon as you remove the guard if it is a yellowed Oly or not. Removing the neck plate will reveal a 3 to 4 bolt mod, along with any neck/body stamps.But, there is a concern that the lower bolt would extend beyond the present 4 bolt plate, but I might be wrong. Hopefully, the sum of parts are worth more than you paid, but as Steve suggested , the pics are somewhat vague ( nice catch on the truss/neckplate Steve), but it seems you sensed that, given the title of the thread. BUT, never say never, with Fender, especially around this period. Hell, Fender reissued a 3 bolt 75' J with black blocks and the shorter tuners that didn't appear until 78 IIRC (see link below) [smilie=smilie_kopf.gif] Good luck, keep us posted.

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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby nolabass » Sun May 25, 2008 10:31 pm

I've seen mostly black binding and blocks on maple. Is it common to see white and pearl 73/74?
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby harleyyy » Sun May 25, 2008 10:33 pm

nolabass wrote:I've seen mostly black binding and blocks on maple. Is it common to see white and pearl 73/74?


Yep, mid 74 is when pearl blocks appeared.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby nolabass » Sun May 25, 2008 10:35 pm

Ya, my '74 was 4 bolt and black. The original case would be molded as well?
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby Ken » Mon May 26, 2008 8:10 am

Sounds like I should try to back out of the sale. Thanks for all of the advice. If it's too late and I end up with the guitar, I'll be sure to let everyone know what the story is.

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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby nolabass » Mon May 26, 2008 11:10 am

Don't mind me I know nothing, just asking questions. Too, the problem seems to be the pics... nobody seems too sure.
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Re: I took a chance on this 70's Jazz

Postby harleyyy » Mon May 26, 2008 11:16 am

nolabass wrote: nobody seems too sure.


Including the seller, so he claims.
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