Sunburst Les Paul Triumph bass???

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Sunburst Les Paul Triumph bass???

Postby fdmundo » Sat May 19, 2007 7:42 pm

Tonight I was watching the Big Joe Polka Show on RFD-TV (I love this show -- don't ask me why), and the bass player in one of the bands was playing what appeared to be a legit 70s vintage Gibson Les Paul Triumph bass, which was sporting a grayish-green-to-black sunburst finish.

Has anyone ever seen this finish on a Triumph before? I have seen natural mahogany (what I have), and white lacquer before, but never a 'burst of any flavor. Might this be a custom-shop finish, or do you think it's a refinish job?

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Postby Weimhunter » Sat May 19, 2007 8:36 pm

Interesting. A guy here in my hometown has a factor origanal silver Triumph. Never seen a burst.
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Postby doombass » Sun May 20, 2007 2:56 pm

Indeed interesting since Gibson from the end ('79 possibly even '78) of the 70's until a few years into the 80's made
Les Paul Custom and Flying V guitars in silver burst. When fading the silver becomes a bit mor green. Like this
1979 Flying V:

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Postby fdmundo » Sun May 20, 2007 3:56 pm

Exactly right! That's the finish I saw on the LP Triumph. But Triumphs only lasted to about '75 or so, right?

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Postby harleyyy » Sun May 20, 2007 4:02 pm

Scroll to almost the bottom for a V bass in Silver Burst
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Postby doombass » Mon May 21, 2007 2:15 am

Triumph's were made until 1979. According to the Shipment Totals book 44 of them came out the final year.
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Postby fdmundo » Mon May 21, 2007 5:28 am

I've gotten the impression over the years that the Triumph and its guitar version were personal favorites of Mr. Paul himself. I've seen many pictures of him playing the low-impedance guitar. The bass was never terribly popular, although my personal opinion is that it was just "ahead of its time."

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Im very skepticle

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Mon May 21, 2007 1:17 pm

Silver was not an option until MUCH later. Ive never seen a Trump that was not white or hog and was correct. Thats in 32 years of music retail..
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Postby fdmundo » Mon May 21, 2007 3:41 pm

So, if this old dude has a silverburst Les Paul Triumph bass, it is likely to be (A) a refinish, or (B) a one-off from the custom shop. Probably picked it up for $50 from a pawn shop.

I may try to trace back from the information on the show's website and contact him. Just curious.

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Re: Im very skepticle

Postby doombass » Tue May 22, 2007 3:15 pm

Kevin Probass Borden wrote:Silver was not an option until MUCH later. Ive never seen a Trump that was not white or hog and was correct. Thats in 32 years of music retail..


You're right Kevin, silver came later but the Silver Burst was introduced as early as 1979 and I've seen it on Les Paul Custom, Flying V, Sonex, L6-S guitars.
It could be a refin of course, but there's always a possibility that someone at Gibson gave one of the last Triumphs a Silver Burst finish. Maybe a custom order for a
matching Les Paul bass to go with a Les Paul Custom guitar?
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Nah

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Wed May 23, 2007 5:45 am

Site unseen, I'd still put up 100.00 bill saying its a refin. There was no CS back then and Norlin didnt do custom orders. We couldnt get hi-profile guys custom orders..
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Postby fdmundo » Wed May 23, 2007 7:55 am

There must have been some kind of custom shop or its equivalent at Gibson as far back as the 60s. A good friend of mine paid a lot of money to order an ES-355 with NON-stereo electronics -- i.e. wired like a 335. He said he wanted the sound of the 335 with the neck profile of the 355. He paid a lot of money for that little "CUSTOM" badge on his axe, too.

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Re: Nah

Postby doombass » Thu May 24, 2007 4:00 am

Kevin Probass Borden wrote:Site unseen, I'd still put up 100.00 bill saying its a refin. There was no CS back then and Norlin didnt do custom orders. We couldnt get hi-profile guys custom orders..


With those facts I will not wave a hundred against you Kev.
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Postby fdmundo » Thu May 24, 2007 6:11 am

I tend to agree with the refinish idea, too. Any midwestern bassists who see the "Meitner Band" listed as playing somewhere might want to endure a few minutes of polka music and check it out. Even as a refinished bass it is interesting, and there might be a story behind it.

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What they did

Postby Kevin Probass Borden » Thu May 24, 2007 11:49 am

In the pre-cs days, a dealer would talk to the factory rep who would see if stuff could be done. Making a stereo to mono, trap tail to bigsby was all easy stuff. Fender would basically shoot any color as long as it was on the "car charts". All the pre 61s were shot this way. Norlin couldnt shoot a sunburst straight, lol.. Silverburst, it woulda prob meant to be purple...lol..
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